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BiggerPockets Money

Hosted by Mindy Jensen & Scott Trench

4.7/5

Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench host the BiggerPockets Money show on FIRE, real estate, and decumulation. 700+ episodes covering early retirement drawdown, Roth conversions, and healthcare in retirement.

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This review is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice.

The Show That Takes FIRE Past the Finish Line

Building a $2.5 million portfolio is hard. Spending it without running out is harder. That is the sentence Mindy Jensen used to open the 700th episode of BiggerPockets Money, "The Ultimate Guide to Early Retirement Drawdown (2026)," and it captures what this show does that most FIRE podcasts do not. Most of the category obsesses over accumulation. BiggerPockets Money spends real time on decumulation, the phase where you actually have to live off the money you spent a decade building.

Jensen and Scott Trench host the show. Trench is the former CEO of BiggerPockets, where he oversaw the platform's growth from 100,000 to 3.1 million real estate investors. He is a real estate investor, broker, and the author of Set for Life. Jensen has been a real estate investor for decades and co-authored First-Time Home Buyer with Trench. Together they have published over 700 episodes, with new episodes dropping on Tuesdays and Fridays. The show sits at a 4.7 rating across Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

If you want a show that covers the intersection of personal finance and real estate, with serious attention to the withdrawal phase that most FIRE content skips, this is among the best in the category. If you want a show that avoids real estate entirely, the BiggerPockets framing will feel like a mismatch.

The Decumulation Deep Dive

The 700th episode is the show's signature work. Jensen and Trench broke down decumulation into the goals that matter: do not run out of money, and do not hand over more to the IRS than you have to. They covered sequential versus blended versus cyclical withdrawal strategies, and explained when each one fits. Sequential drawdown means pulling from taxable accounts first, then tax-deferred, then Roth, to manage your tax bracket year by year. Blended drawdown pulls from all three simultaneously to smooth the tax hit. Cyclical drawdown adjusts based on market conditions, pulling from bonds in down years and stocks in up years.

The tax-efficiency framing is what makes the episode valuable. A listener who followed the sequential strategy could save hundreds of thousands in taxes over a 40-year retirement compared to pulling blindly from the largest account. The hosts explained the role of Roth IRA accounts, traditional IRAs, and taxable brokerage accounts in the withdrawal sequence, and when to time Roth conversions for maximum benefit. For the mechanics behind the 4% rule that underpins all of this, our guide to the safe withdrawal rate covers the numbers.

The July 3, 2026 episode, "The Best Early Retirement Withdrawal Strategy (6 Proven Frameworks)," went further. It covered six frameworks for accessing retirement savings before age 59 and a half, including the 72(t) / SEPP rule that lets you tap tax-deferred accounts early without the 10% penalty. The hosts explained the three calculation methods for 72(t), the five-year rule, and why most people do not run their whole portfolio through one SEPP plan. Instead, they roll portions of tax-deferred accounts into separate IRAs and start distributions on each one, layering in as many plans as needed. That level of specificity is what separates this show from the generic "save 25x your expenses" advice.

Healthcare and the Real Costs of Early Retirement

Healthcare is the part of early retirement that gets underestimated most often, and BiggerPockets Money covers it seriously. The decumulation episodes addressed healthcare planning in early retirement, including the Affordable Care Act marketplace, premium tax credits, and how your withdrawal strategy affects your subsidy eligibility. The interaction matters: if you pull too much from a traditional IRA in a given year, you can push your income above the subsidy cliff and lose thousands in premium support. The hosts explained how to structure withdrawals to stay under the threshold.

That kind of detail is rare in the FIRE category. Most shows mention healthcare as a line item and move on. BiggerPockets Money treats it as a variable that shapes your entire withdrawal plan. For listeners planning their own transition, our guide to how much you need to retire covers the baseline numbers, but the healthcare layer is where this show adds the most.

The real estate content is the show's other pillar. Trench's background means the show covers rental properties, house hacking, and live-in flips with the depth you would expect from the BiggerPockets ecosystem. The hosts are honest about the friction: vacancies, capital expenditures, and the time cost of self-management. A cash-flow-negative rental is a liability regardless of appreciation. For listeners considering that path, our guide to analyzing a rental property and house hacking guide cover the mechanics.

Where the Show Has Limits

The real estate lens is pervasive. The hosts are real estate investors, and the BiggerPockets brand is built on real estate. Listeners pursuing FIRE through a pure index fund portfolio will find the show lighter on their path than a show like ChooseFI. The hosts acknowledge this and cover index fund investing, but the default framing leans toward property ownership as a wealth-building tool.

The episodes run long, often over an hour, and the ad load is heavier than most shows in this category. BiggerPockets monetizes through sponsorships, and the hosts read ads mid-episode. The content between the ads is strong, but listeners who want ad-free listening should know what they are getting. The show's free resources, including the decumation slides and the healthcare costs projection app, are genuinely useful and do not require an email to access.

The 700th episode was recorded in December 2025 and published with a 2026 framing, which caused some confusion in the community about the timeline. The content is accurate for 2026 planning, but the tax brackets and contribution limits referenced should be verified against current IRS figures. Our guide to catch-up retirement savings in your 40s covers the current limits if you are modeling your own plan.

Who Should Listen

The show fits listeners in their 30s through 50s who are serious about early retirement and want intermediate-to-advanced content. It suits people who are past the basics of budgeting and saving, who hold a portfolio (real estate, index funds, or both), and who want to understand the withdrawal phase before they reach it. A listener who finished the decumulation episode would know which withdrawal framework fits their situation, how to structure Roth conversions, and how healthcare costs shape the plan. That is a complete answer to the question most FIRE content leaves hanging.

It fits less well for beginners, anyone who wants short episodes, or listeners who want to avoid real estate content entirely. For a beginner-friendly entry point to the same topics, pair this with our guide to building your first portfolio in your 20s.

Getting Started

Begin with the 700th episode on early retirement drawdown, because it is the most comprehensive guide to decumulation available in free podcast form. Then move to the six withdrawal frameworks episode if you are within five years of your target date. Watch the embedded video above for the hosts' step-by-step FIRE guide. Track your own retirement readiness with our retirement number calculator and FIRE calculator as you apply the advice, because the show's frameworks only work if you can see whether your numbers hold.

BiggerPockets Money will not give you the shortest episodes in the category. It will give you the most thorough treatment of what happens after you hit your number, and for listeners approaching that line, that is the content that matters most.

This post is for informational purposes only and does not constitute financial advice.

Best Episodes to Start With

  • 1.The Ultimate Guide to Early Retirement Drawdown (2026)
  • 2.The Best Early Retirement Withdrawal Strategy (6 Proven Frameworks)
  • 3.The 13 Biggest Financial Independence Mistakes (That Delay FIRE by Years)

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